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JadenSRB
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| | Subject: Revelation B] Wed 13 Apr 2011 - 20:42 | |
| ![Revelation B] 300px-RevelationEXVC-JP-SR](https://2img.net/h/images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110224211013/yugioh/images/thumb/7/77/RevelationEXVC-JP-SR.jpg/300px-RevelationEXVC-JP-SR.jpg) Revelation
Counter Trap
Negate the activation of the effect of an Effect Monster that activates in the hand or Graveyard, and remove it from play.
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čovek
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Wed 13 Apr 2011 - 20:47 | |
| ovo je common?? novi side deck staple... | |
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Admin
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Wed 13 Apr 2011 - 20:59 | |
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StefanTube
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Wed 13 Apr 2011 - 21:04 | |
| - Admin wrote:
- veiler
vayu
dandy
da... pwn glow up plague gorz spore  itd... | |
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Admin
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Wed 13 Apr 2011 - 21:07 | |
| - StefanTube wrote:
- Admin wrote:
- veiler
vayu
dandy
da... pwn glow up
plague
gorz
spore
itd... mislim da gorz zabaguje stvar jer on udje pa na tabli odigra efekat a ne mozes da negiras pozivanje iz ruke nazalost tako neka prica ce biti valjda | |
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Lazar Milin
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Wed 13 Apr 2011 - 21:08 | |
| mnogo kul stvar
counter fairy se smeju | |
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sanjin the magician
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 11:48 | |
| Moze negirati Gorza. Jer njegovo pozivanje iz ruke je u stvari njegov efekat, nije to inheret special summon. Sjecate se valjda onoga, da ga ne moze negirati Solemn Judgment, a moze Divine Wrath, jelde ? Tako da sam siguran da ovo vrijedi.
da nastavimo, Kalut,
Honest,
Recruiteri (bas svi koji traze da odu u groblje),
Battle Fader,
Dandylion,
EH Shining,
Treeborn Frog,
Fishborg Blaster,
Haman svi Fabledi,
Darksoul,
Doppelwarrior,
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Jako potentna karta i mislim da ce u TCGu biti Ultra. | |
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Lazar Milin
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 13:07 | |
| - sanjin the magician wrote:
- Moze negirati Gorza. Jer njegovo pozivanje iz ruke je u stvari njegov efekat, nije to inheret special summon. Sjecate se valjda onoga, da ga ne moze negirati Solemn Judgment, a moze Divine Wrath, jelde ? Tako da sam siguran da ovo vrijedi.
da nastavimo, Kalut,
Honest,
Recruiteri (bas svi koji traze da odu u groblje),
Battle Fader,
Dandylion,
EH Shining,
Treeborn Frog,
Fishborg Blaster,
Haman svi Fabledi,
Darksoul,
Doppelwarrior,
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Jako potentna karta i mislim da ce u TCGu biti Ultra. ovo moze negde i u main | |
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AnyOne813
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 13:36 | |
| Hahah karta je broken nema vise Treeborna,BF,Dandy-a itd ovo ide u svaki side | |
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Admin
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 13:38 | |
| da jbt treeborn, negira i RFG
@Sanjin znas na sta mislim...
odigra se gorz i on kad udje odmah proba da odradi summon svog tokena
pa zasto onda ne moze solemn judgment na gorza nego mora effect negation? | |
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ningen
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 16:24 | |
| Mozda cu je drzati u pomocnom mada mi je suvise situaciona.
Karta cepa i Gorza. | |
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Admin
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 16:41 | |
| ne moze gorza da negira solemn judgment. chain block je u pitanju ja mislim jer kad se on pozove automatski pokusa da pozove tokena, pa ne mozes da preskaces chainove sa solemnom. moracu da proverim za ovaj slucaj, nova je karta. - Quote :
- The effects of "Thunder King Rai-Oh", "Black Horn of Heaven", "Solemn Judgment", and similar cards cannot negate a Special Summon which occurs during the resolution of an effect which activates.[10]
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ningen
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 17:16 | |
| Ali ova karta negira aktivaciju efekata zivuljki.
Znam da Solemn ne moze Gorza bre istu recenicu sam bio prekopirao vec u nekoj temi. Razlika izmedju njih je sto Solemn ne negira efekte monstera, a ovo upravo negira to, odnosno u ovom slucaju aktivaciju efekta Gorza, samim tim ne dolazi ni do rezolucije tog efekta. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 17:41 | |
| Iskreno bih voleo da si u pravu... Samo ne znam kako onda solemn ne moze gorza a moze cybera. Prokleti block. Prokleti yugioh i damage step i summon negation i propali sistem chaina... Kao kad imas black whirlwind i oppression, stavis blizzarda na link 1, whirl na 2 i opp ne radi.
Ako ce chain block vaziti i pri ovom counteru onda ne mozes gorza jer on vec proba da uradi taj summon tokena...
Evo zasto je magic bolji, ja tamo resavam ruling sporove bez problema. Par stvari je drukcije od yugioha ali se sve zna, ne treba ti doktorat.
Ostavicu ovo otvoreno dok ne nadjemo neki izvor | |
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ningen
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 18:09 | |
| Ljudi uvek mesaju Gorza i Cybera, jbg prokleto komplikovani ygo je sve osim decije igre. XD Evo: "All these three cards (solemn, rai-oh, horn of heaven) have the same ability to negate "inherent" summons. This means, summons that are built in to the monster, and Special Summons it without activating an effect nor using the chain. Inherent summons ain't effects. Most cards that contains a text that explains "this is how you summon this monster" written on the card are inherent summons, like Cyber Dragon, Trap Eater, Heraklinos, etc. " Tako da Gorz i Cyber nisu isto, Gorz ima efekat koji kaze pozovi ga ako se dogodi neka akcija (prsnjavanje zivotnih bodova u ovom slucaju) a solemn ne moze da negira efekte monstera samim tim ne moze da negira rezoluciju efekta nekog monstera kojim on poziva nesto na teren. Solemn se vezuje samo za aktivaciju ako aktivacija prodje- na primer ne negiras aktiviranje monster reborn-a, zivuljka ce doci na teren i ti neces moci da negiras to pozivanje. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 18:46 | |
| O_o to mi je poznato, da. This shit is hard. | |
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JadenSRB
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 18:50 | |
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Dandylion
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 22:26 | |
| Sve ove gore navedene karte su smorile nekog lika te je covek lepo, seo i smislio ovu kartu .... Svaka mu cast i veliko mu hvala.... | |
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Tolmy
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 23:40 | |
| o jea, fairy ce biti jos jaci... INACE,LJUDI: OVA KARTA NIJE COMMON VEC SUPER RARE U JAPANSKOJ VERZIJI... KAKO STVARI STOJE,U TCG VERZIJI CE BITI SECRET... KAO I SVE KARTE ZA FAIRY DO SAD,MADA POSTOJI MOGUCNOST DA BUDE ULTRA,ULTIMATE. | |
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sanjin the magician
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Thu 14 Apr 2011 - 23:54 | |
| Ugl, Revelation, da se vratimo na ono, ne moze da negira pozivanje Gorzovog Tokena, ali moze da negira samo pozivanje Gorza iz ruke...sto ti u principu dodje na isto  . | |
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JadenSRB
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Sun 1 May 2011 - 10:35 | |
| Karta se zove Debunk u tcg. | |
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sanjin the magician
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| | Subject: Re: Revelation B] Mon 2 May 2011 - 1:39 | |
| "If the monster whose effect was negated by Debunk is not in the same place where the effect was activated when
Debunk resolves, you do not remove it from play."
Ovaj rulling mi je sumnjiv. Ja to shvatam ovako, ali ispravite me ako grijesim :
Gorz i Treeborn ce se removati, jer su oni i dalje u ruci/groblju sve dok se uspjesno ne rezolvaju i dodju do polja
dok Effect Veiler, D.D. Crow i Honest se nece removati, jer su se kao dio costa se izbili iz ruke u groblje za aktivaciju efekta i samim time nisu na istom mjestu aktivacije (u ovom slucaju, RUKA). | |
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