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PostSubject: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptySun 29 Apr 2012 - 22:42

vec pogadjate na sta ciljam. ;3


3x Machina Fortress
3x Machina Force
3x Machina GearFrame
2x Machina Peacekeeper
6x Gadget (foil ofc)
3x Card Car D
3x Swift ScareCrow
3x Battle Fader (da objasnim, ovo je fiend, ali efekat kad odradi, leti van kad ode sa polja tako da sumnjam da ce ikad da zaclogguje grave osim ako umre od ddv ili royal tribute)
3x Scrap Recycler

monsters: 29
ovo deluje kao ekstremno, mislim da ce mozda raditi proredjivanje monstera
ali u svakom slucaju mislim da trapova nece uopste ni biti...

3x Solidarity
3x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Dark Hole
1x Monster Reborn
1x Limiter Removal
1x Pot of Avarice
3x Smashing Ground
1x My Body As A Shield
1x Heavy Storm

Spells: 15

29+15 = 44
44 je otprilike prihvatljivo
ali radi manjeg clogga izbacicemo

1x Machina Force
1x Machina Peacekeeper

i ubacicemo

2x Creature Swap (ko je igrao jagodinu danas skontao je...)

44 je optimalan broj za 6gadget deck...

44/6 = 7.33 znaci u savrsenoj raspodeli svaka sedma karta je gadget, znaci tesko se nadje 2 u prvoj ruci
44/9 = 4.88 znaci gadgeti+gearframe zajedno kad se saberu u sustini garantuju da opening potez bude search kroz deck, znaci stanjivanje


13 karata od 44 radi neku vrstu draw-a kroz deck

testirati i ubaciti : 3x Offerings to the Doomed, unistava sve sto nema priority, danas dokazano dobro radilo...
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptySun 29 Apr 2012 - 22:45

1 Treacherous fore radi. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptySun 29 Apr 2012 - 22:47

(additional note)

alternate deck:

-sve machina karte i scrap recycleri, solidarity (nazalost ne upada u side materijal jer je preko 15 karata)

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3x ult offering (ili je semi-limit?)
3x gk spy
1x gk descendant
3x cat of ill omen
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neka zastita tipa dark bribe, solemn judgment

zasto?
zato sto moze da se napravi mega rank 4 engine koji ce da ukljuci u celu pricu shock mastera kao glavni engine, a naravno i ostale jake rank 4-orke koje se vremenom pojavljuju (onaj mini pot of avarice)
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyMon 30 Apr 2012 - 20:06

ovo je dosta kul
ovaj gk engine je epic win
ne kapiram macku doduse
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyMon 30 Apr 2012 - 20:15

macka bunari ult offeirng
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyMon 30 Apr 2012 - 20:23

Admin wrote:
macka bunari ult offeirng
oh yea
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyMon 30 Apr 2012 - 21:38

3x Veiler umesto Fadera, hm? Machina Cannon umesto Force-a?

Btw, ja bih igrao taj GK engine. Posebno sa Jumbo Drill-om, koji izlazi u G.Overlord-u.

P.S. MBaaS je toliko kul tech Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyMon 30 Apr 2012 - 22:15

JoXa wrote:
3x Veiler umesto Fadera, hm? Machina Cannon umesto Force-a?

Btw, ja bih igrao taj GK engine. Posebno sa Jumbo Drill-om, koji izlazi u G.Overlord-u.

P.S. MBaaS je toliko kul tech Very Happy
citaj
veileri sjebu solidarity svojim spellcastovanjem
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyMon 30 Apr 2012 - 22:25

cannon je useless
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 8:16

Admin wrote:
cannon je useless

Force je više useless.

zolga wrote:

citaj
veileri sjebu solidarity svojim spellcastovanjem

A da, zaboravio sam na Solidarity uslov Embarassed Al' ako se odluči za GK varijantu, onda svakako treba da ubaci Veiler-e, pa, možda, i BLS.
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samo ne znam zasto ubacujes descendenta kad imas samo 3 gk-a u deck?
i da slazem se sa Joxom u vezi cannon-a Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 10:54

ja bi igrao(tj. vec igram) sa 2xpeackeepera dobar je nije los doda gearframe ili ga jednostvano discardujes sa fortressom za tog istog fortressa prema tome nije dead draw.Mislim da je 3xscrap recyclera previse bolje je 2 ,a force moze da prodje 3 komada.Neznam da nije previse 29 monstera bolje izbaci neke,i ubaci trapove solemn-e(sve i warning i j...),zatim sto se tice extra decka ja igram zeinmaistera da ne remetim solidarity dobar je kad imas 2xgadgeta na polju bez solidarity-a.
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 11:41

JoXa wrote:
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cannon je useless

Force je više useless.

discard za forta
monster reborn

mixy17 wrote:
samo ne znam zasto ubacujes descendenta kad imas samo 3 gk-a u deck?
i da slazem se sa Joxom u vezi cannon-a Very Happy
jeste tri ali ga ta tri izvlace
to ti je tipican gk engine
ponekad se doda 1-2 recuiera ako ti ne treba mesto
ali osnova je engina=3spy+1desc
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 12:02

zolga wrote:
JoXa wrote:
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cannon je useless

Force je više useless.

discard za forta
monster reborn

Force je Nomi monster.
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 12:19

JoXa wrote:
zolga wrote:
JoXa wrote:
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cannon je useless

Force je više useless.

discard za forta
monster reborn

Force je Nomi monster.
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 13:05

cannon je i dalje useless ne znam o cemu ti...
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 17:22

posle par testiranja sam skontao da ne valja sistem nekako
card car d play je validan samo ako imas vrane ili fadera ili ako je prvi potez pa 100% neces umreti

kad dodje u late game totalno je beskoristan.
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 17:29

Admin wrote:
posle par testiranja sam skontao da ne valja sistem nekako
card car d play je validan samo ako imas vrane ili fadera ili ako je prvi potez pa 100% neces umreti

kad dodje u late game totalno je beskoristan.

Ja se čudim kako je CCD došao do statusa Pot of Greed-a u monster obliku, kad može biti toliki dead draw.
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karta je dobra u chain burnu i final countdownu
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karta je dobra u chain burnu i final countdownu

Što jes', jes''; ali ovako je glupost.
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 18:39

sada sam testirao sa jednim treacherusom umesto mbaas
radi nista fenomenalno ali radi
cardcar d je tri puta dosao zaglavljeno
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 19:23

onda drop the card car d, i one attack stoppere pa ubacimo trapove do kraja?
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 19:57

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onda drop the card car d, i one attack stoppere pa ubacimo trapove do kraja?
da
ali onda nije nista specijalno

ona gk varijanta radi jako dobro
doduse dolazio mi je u prvom cardcar d nekako
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 20:32

gk spy-evi su tu da bi se vrteli u krug
descendant je tu ako prodju 2 spy-a, a i za removal kad zatreba
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PostSubject: Re: High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget.   High Budget Machina Solidarity Gadget. EmptyTue 1 May 2012 - 20:36

Može bilo koji LVL4 GK, da ne bi treći Spy bezveze bio tu. Najčešće se uzimaju Descendant i Guard...

P.S. Zar nije logičnije prvo izvući Descendant-a sa Spy-em, da bi bile veće šanse za povlačenje drugog Spy-a?
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