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PostSubject: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 10:43

Ovaj review je predložio Orbz, hvala na predlogu, koji je izazov sam po sebi.

Pomenuo sam lopove u naslovu (ne znam da li su lopovi u pitanju; neki sitni kriminalci su sigurno), i o njima ću i pisati... U pisanju su Dark Scorpion-si. Izuzetno nekorišćen arhetip, iako se pojavio u Anime-u (GX-u).

U čemu se ogleda njihov stil igre? Pod jedan, efekat. Svi efekti ovih monstera se odvijaju posle nanošenja štete protivniku; ali, u suprotnosti tome, nijedan DS nema ATK veći od 1400 (osim LVL5 DS, Gorg-a, ali je 1800 ATK mala vrednost za čudovište ovog levela)! Znači: njihova igra se ogleda u klasičnoj beatdown varijanti. Srećom, Warrior-i imaju i više nego dovoljno "ATK raise" podrške: Solidarity, Command Knight, pa i Comrade Swordsman of Landstar...

Prvi koga treba pomenuti jeste glavni monster teme, head honcho, Don Corleone teme, koji nema DS u nazivu, iako je deo arhetipa: Don Zaloog.


Don Zaloog

Attribute: DARK
Type: Warrior/Effect
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1400/1500
Effect: When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, you can either:
● Discard 1 random card from your opponent's hand. OR
● Send the top 2 cards of your opponent's Deck to the Graveyard.
{EFEKAT: Kada ova karta nanese štetu u borbi vašem protivniku, možete:
● Nasumično izbaciti 1 kartu iz ruke vašeg protivnika na Groblje. ILI
● Poslati 2 karte sa vrha protivnkovog špila na Groblje.
}

Iako je boss, svojim efektom to ne dokazuje, pošto će većina odabrati prvi efekat (osim onih koji će koristiti neku suludu DS deck destruction varijantu decka), koji je posebno loš kod Dark World deck-ova. Da izbacuje 2 karte iz ruke na groblje, bila bi malo drugačija priča. U ovom slučaju, možete držati jednog, ali ja mislim da uopšte nije potreban.

Dark Scorpion - Meanae the Thorn

Attribute: DARK
Type: Warrior/Effect
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1000/1800
Effect: When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points, you can select and activate 1 of the following effects:
● Add 1 card that includes "Dark Scorpion" in its card name, or is named "Cliff the Trap Remover", from your Deck to your hand.
● Add 1 card that includes "Dark Scorpion" in its card name, or is named "Cliff the Trap Remover", from your Graveyard to your hand.
{EFEKAT: Kada ova karta nanese štetu u borbi vašem protivniku, možete:
● Dodati jednu kartu koja sadrži "Dark Scorpion" u imenu ili se zove "Cliff the Trap Remover" iz špila u vašu ruku. ILI
● Dodati jednu kartu koja sadrži "Dark Scorpion" u imenu ili se zove "Cliff the Trap Remover" sa vašeg Groblja u vašu ruku.
}

ONA treba da bude glavna ovde. Ona je neka vrsta Stratos-a za ovaj špil. Držati 3.


Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow

Attribute: DARK
Type: Warrior/Effect
Level: 3
ATK/DEF: 1000/1000
Effect: When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points, you can select and activate 1 of the following effects:
● Return 1 card on the field to its owner's hand.
● Pick up 1 card on the top of your opponent's Deck (Your opponent does not look at the card). Select the top or the bottom of the Deck and return the card there.
{EFEKAT: Kada ova karta nanese štetu u borbi vašem protivniku, možete:
● Vratiti jednu kartu na polju u ruku vlasnika. ILI
● Povući kartu sa vrha protivnikovog špila (protivnik ne može da pogleda kartu). Izaberite vrh ili dno špila i vratite kartu tamo.
}

Ovaj ovde takođe ima dobar efekat: ubijte Synchro i Xyz monstere. Grand Mole teme. Držati 3.

Cliff the Trap Remover

Attribute: DARK
Type: Warrior/Effect
Level: 3
ATK/DEF: 1200/1000
Effect: When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points, you can select and activate 1 of the following effects:
● Destroy 1 Spell Card or Trap Card on the field.
● Send 2 cards from the top of your opponent's Deck to his/her Graveyard.
{EFEKAT: Kada ova karta nanese štetu u borbi vašem protivniku, možete:
● Uništiti jednu Spell ili Trap kartu na polju. ILI
● Poslati 2 karte sa vrha protivnikovog špila na groblje.
}

Dobar efekat, to ga čini MST-om teme. Držati 3 je previše, 2 je sasvim dovoljno.

Dark Scorpion - Gorg the Strong

Attribute: DARK
Type: Warrior/Effect
Level: 5
ATK/DEF: 1800/1500
Effect: When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points, you can select and activate 1 of the following effects:
● Return 1 Monster Card on your opponent's side of the field to the top of its owner's Deck. OR
● Send 1 card from the top of your opponent's Deck to the Graveyard.
{EFEKAT: Kada ova karta nanese štetu u borbi vašem protivniku, možete:
● Vratiti 1 čudovište sa protivnikove strane polja na vrh protivnikovog špila. ILI
● Poslati 1 kartu sa vrha protivnikovog špila na Groblje.
}

Na početku ovog teksta, mislio sam da ću da imam klasičan Beatdown DS deck, koji je svako mogao da napravi. U toku pisanja, nešto mi je palo na pamet: DS nisu vezani za groblje i to da je D.D. Survivor Warrior-type... Tako da je od DS Beatdown nastao DS MACRO Beatdown. Samim tim, sa dodatkom Survivor-a, Gorg ulazi u deck - tako da imam i Phoenix Wing Wind Blast. Držaću 2 komada.


Šta je na kraju ispalo od toga:

[3] D.D. Survivor
[3] Koa'ki Meiru Bergzak
[3] Dark Scorpion - Meanae the Thorn
[3] Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow
[2] Cliff the Trap Remover
[2] Dark Scorpion - Gorg the Strong
[2] Summoner Monk
[2] Command Knight

[3] Solidarity
[2] Pot of Duality
[2] D.D.R. - Different Dimension Reincarnation
[2] Mystical Space Typhoon
[2] Forbidden Lance
[1] Dark Hole
[1] Dimensional Fissure
[1] Reinforcement of the Army
[1] Allure of Darkness

[3] Macro Cosmos
[2] Solemn Warning
[1] Solemn Judgement

[2] Driven Daredevil
[1] Scarred Warrior
[1] Gravity Warrior
[1] Crimson Blader
[1] Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
[1] Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
[1] Stardust Dragon
[1] Black Rose Dragon
[1] Ally of Justice Catastor
[2] Number 39: Utopia
[2] Blade Armor Ninja
[1] M.X-Saber Invoker


EDIT: Videli ste Macro varijantu deck-a, evo još jedne: Macro Direct Attack Scorpions:

[3] Magic Hole Golem
[3] D.D. Survivor
[3] Dark Scorpion - Meanae the Thorn
[3] Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow
[2] Cliff the Trap Remover
[2] Ironhammer the Giant
[2] D.D. Scout Plane
[1] Dark Scorpion - Gorg the Strong

[2] Pot of Duality
[2] D.D.R. - Different Dimension Reincarnation
[2] Mystical Space Typhoon
[1] Allure of Darkness
[1] Foolish Burial
[1] Dimensional Fissure
[1] Reinforcement of the Army

[3] Safe Zone
[3] Macro Cosmos
[2] Bottomless Trap Hole
[2] Solemn Warning
[1] Solemn Judgement
[1] Release from the Stone


Cilj: Koristiti efekat Magic Hole Golem-a ili Ironhammer-a za direktne napade sa DS-ima; i pritom sačuvati monstere sa Safe Zone, etc.

Naporan review, stvarno. Smile

Komentarišite, predlažite ovakve (čudne) deckove, izlaziću vam u susret. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 11:09

ako me pamcenje dobro sluzi, mislim da je ranije chick bio limitovan na 1.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 11:27

Cek, a kako pravis damage sa monsterima od 1000 za napad, don't you need solydarity ili nesto. Anyways brw za ovo. Ako hoces jos da se zajebavas, predlazem harpie.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 11:32

Pa, fora je da čistiš monstere sa Survivor-om (ili bilo čime), a direkt sa DS-ima. Hteo sam da stavim The A. Forces, ali nema mesta, već imam 41 kartu. :\
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 11:34

Pa dobro, moze i tako
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 12:11

EDIT: Još jedna decklista, čini mi se da je kompletnija.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 12:17

Au moj omiljeni architype...
Mozda još neki Shrink ili Lance.
Rahz i Landstar nisu nešto,bolje stavi Rose i Fiendish Chain.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 12:37

Poslušao sam (deo) tvog saveta i izbacio Rahz-a i Landstar-a (i 1 Command Knight) i dodao 3 Solidarity-ja. Iako je to Macro deck, opet mogu da namerno pošaljem jednog Warrior-a na groblje... Pa posle aktiviram Fissure/Macro.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 16:53

Si probao onaj prastari field, mystic plasma zone. Moze i da posluzi vs gka, dragunitija ili dw
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 19:32

Iako nije dio arhetipa, ja bih ipak igrao Don Zalooga. Bice beskoristan protiv Dark Worldova, ali ce te spasavati protiv svega ostaloga. Jos ako imas Dim Fissure na polju, onda te boli briga.

I izbacio bih Scout Plane-a. Pored Survivora i bez Caiusa, on ja za kite.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 20:04

Don je beskoristan u odnosu na ostale DS monster-e.

Zašto? Potreban je za Ironhammer-a (i Gorg-a). Ne smeta uopšte.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 20:59

E Premocno radis ovo O.O Svidja Mi Se Very Happy!
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 21:07

The Stig wrote:
ako me pamcenje dobro sluzi, mislim da je ranije chick bio limitovan na 1.

ili semi-limitovan?
ali bio je onaj kombo sa njim Makyurom i CotH
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Tue 7 Feb 2012 - 23:23

Beskoristan? On ti je covjece najbolji. Zensko radi svoj posao, istina, ali pored Zalooga da se oslanjas na zutokljunce... Njegov efekat najvise boli kad upali od svih ostalih.
On bar moze da zgazi one minimalce tipa Agent Earth, Sangana i Zute i Crvene Gadgete. Meane i Chick ne mogu ni to.
ise bih isao na karte monster removala nego na Magic Goleme i Ironhammere, izgleda mi presporo to. Smashinzi, Prisoni, Dark Hole ne igras, cak i DD Lady ima vise smisla. Ti dok sve ustimas, pa cak i jednom kad uspijes sa tim monsterima, protivnik ima vremena da te pojede. Don Zaloog ima najvise zasmeta, jer im uskracuje opcije.
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Wed 8 Feb 2012 - 20:18

To je neki treći deck... Ono, 3x Vortex, Dark Hole, Smashing, Prison, Bottomless... Tako da Macro varijanta (znači i Warrior Lady) je primamljiva opcija. Tako da, ovaj deck ima više verzija (ko bi rek'o)...

Što se tiče verzije sa Ironhammerima, u pravu si, i jeste sporo; ali tu ništa ne pomaže.

Tako da ću za koji minut dodati i tu treću verziju, hvala na doprinosu, samo da se i ostali priključe. Smile


P.S. Čini mi se da je ovo sada više Archetype report nego review, pa ako se modovi slažu, mogli bi da premeste temu (u podforum "Vesti"), i promene naslovu u "Archetype Report - Dark Scorpions". Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Thief & Knights, unite in another dimension!   Wed 8 Feb 2012 - 20:45

Very nice review,stari zaboravljeni archetype koji ima potencijala Very Happy

Inace,predlog za sledeci review-Evil heroes.Vrlo malo supporta,a par fusiona imaju stvarno fenomenalne efekte,sta mislis o tome? Smile
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